Dadgumit-Redux

[EdK]

I just got an email form WD Ward telling me how he liked my submission to Magic and Mechanica and probably would have accepted it if the antho had not been cancelled.

These near miss things are killing me. Grrrr...

Edward Knight
Editor
Journey Books Publishing
Amazing Journeys Magazine

http://www.journeybookspublishing.com
http://www.journeybooksonline.com

[davidolson22]

:(

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Part dark, part light. And gooey in the middle.

[crystalwizard]

Sorry to hear that. :(

Never meddle in the affairs of a wizard unless you are soggy and hard to light!

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http://artwanted.com/crystalwizard

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[ScrewMoonshine]

Ouch. My sympathies.

Robert Orme

Out now:
'Such Dreams' in Amazing Journeys Magazine #12 (www.journeybookspublishing.com)
'On the Tree Top' in Ultraverse vol.3 #5 (www.ultraverse.us)

Coming soon:
'The Scab, the Man, and the I.V.' in Mount Zion Speculative Fiction Review #3 (www.mountzionpress.com)
'More Than One Way to Protect' in Lords of Justice (www.pitchblackbooks.com)
'And Afterward' and 'Candy Lover' in Flashshot, April 30 and May 23 (www.gwthomas.org/subscribe.htm)

[Jordan Lapp]

Don't worry, Ed. There are tons of markets that accept that kind of thing. I have to say though, that I had a really good story brewing over here. Would have been proud to be in the ToC alongside you!

Jordan

[Bill Ward]

My commiserations, would you have felt better if I said it didn't have a snowball's chance in Arizona of acceptance? /emoticons/tongue.gif

Just kidding, it was a good story, and the nice thing about stories is that they, unlike markets, don't just disappear (barring hard drive failure!). You'll find a home for it I'm sure.

[EdK]

I'm proud of the fact that you liked it, so maybe this is misplaced and should be in the brag section.

The way my submission luck has been running as of late it may be as close as I get to a brag. /emoticons/smile.gif

Edward Knight
Editor
Journey Books Publishing
Amazing Journeys Magazine

http://www.journeybookspublishing.com
http://www.journeybooksonline.com

[erazmus]

Well, a lot of us are in the same boat, Ed.
I'm putting together a S&S anthology, as some of you guys may (or may not) know. Its POD, which is the best I can do for now. Anyone who'd like an invite, e-mail me and ask. The details are still unsettled.
Mike

Michael D. Turner
'Psyched Up' in _Turn the other Chick_-ed. E. Friesner-Baen books
www.baen.com
'Dutchman Rescue'in Continuum SF #6
www.continuumsciencefiction.com/orders.htm (http://www.continuumsciencefiction.com/orders.htm)

'An Incident at Black Tongue Tavern' in _Bash Down the Door and Slice Open the Badguy_ from Fantasist Enterprises:
www.fantasistent.com/books/anthologies/BASH.php (http://www.fantasistent.com/books/anthologies/BASH.php)

[Jordan Lapp]

**Its POD, which is the best I can do for now.**

This is another newbie writer question I guess:

I see this all the time. Writers refer to POD anthologies with a little scorn, or maybe embarassment. Why? What's the big deal about POD anthos? Isn't that the most cost effective way to go? I'd say it was better than an e-antho, no?

Thanks,

Jordan

[crystalwizard]

POD = print on demand. Books cost more to print that way, you make less on each copy.

The upside is you don't have to warehouse stock, you don't have to pay for returns.

Not all writers refer to POD with scorn or embarrassment. What you're seeing, when you see those comments, is the tip of a much deeper ice-berg. There's a huge fight in the industry over which is best, to be published by a traditional house or do it yourself. There are people on both sides with their noses in the air looking down at everyone else.

I don't want to get into who's right, who's wrong and what's best. That's a never ending debate with no one winning.

Never meddle in the affairs of a wizard unless you are soggy and hard to light!

Visit my art gallery on art wanted at
http://artwanted.com/crystalwizard

All my books in print:
http://sojourn.omnitech.net

[carnifexpress]

I'm guessing that all of these great stories that Pitch Black had to drop or books that had to be cancelled willsee the light of day... you can't keep a good story down for long.

Armand Rosamilia

Visit Carnifex Press for more information!

http://www.CarnifexPress.net

Freehold short stories:
"Like A Thief In The Night" http://gryphonwood.blogspot.com/2006_06_01_gryphonwood_archive.html
"Dew Scented" Stalking Shadows anthology


The Freehold site is now up!
http://www.angelfire.com/indie/freehold

[Christopher_Heath]

"There's a huge fight in the industry over which is best, to be published by a traditional house or do it yourself."

I don't think there's much of a fight. Any writer that'd prefer POD over a publishing house footing the bill ofa print run isn't facing reality. Lower cover priceequates to the odds of selling more copies.If a publishing house is paying for a print run, you better believe they'll try to market it. There's also prestige that comes with a company willing to invest in your writing. Those that have done so for me, I'm very grateful. It's tough to turn a profit small press, small print run, so small press publishers really put their necks out there and really have to be impressed by your writing. Having said that, I don't turn my nose up to POD, either. If a cool anthology with some great writers is created through that process, which would otherwise be impossible, then that's a good thing.

-Chris




Christopher M. Heath

"Azieran: Distilling the Essence" in Sails and Sorcery by Fantasist Enterprises
"Azieran: The Conquerors" in Chimaera Serials
"Azieran: Pawn of theSerpentine Witch" in Chronicles of Fantasy by ComStar Media
"Azieran: Sentinel of an Ageless Reign" in Chronicles of Fantasy by ComStar Media
"Azieran: The Lakeshorn Mirrors" in Chronicles of Fantasy by ComStar Media
"Azieran: Crestfallen in Mal'kyrrik" serialized novella in Forgotten Worlds
"Azieran: Wyrd Sins" in Rogue Worlds
"The Coruscate King" in Freehold: Betrayal - Ghourlesh Book I
"Azieran: Beyond the Black Veil" in Stalking Shadows
"Azieran: In the Wake of Ain Koph's Fall" in Grendelsong #4



+ others

[erazmus]

Or in my case, I was looking for a place to put my project and a new, local POD publisher expressed interst. I don'y have the chops yet to interest a major house, or even most small presses. What I have is a handfull of publishing credits, some not entirely unimpressive, a lot of contacts with other writers who work in the S&S field or related fields, most through this board but also through the local convention circut and my publishers (Fantasist Enterprises and Baen Books) web-boards. The publishers here are all either having their own probelms or busy with their own projects, I wanted to go through someone else. And I need something with _my_ name on the spine to show off. Both on the editing side, hence the anthology, and on the writing side, thus a chapbook series as well.
I anticipate this will be the only POD projects I undertake. I prefer to pay writers up-front, indeed I prefer to be paid up-front. But this is a marketing manuver both for me and for the writers I select, and the sub-genre I'm working in. I wouldn't be going this way if I didn't need something before August 2008, when the world SF convention happens in my backyard. I can get on the programming, the programming director lives here in town and I know her well enough, and she knows my work well enough. But if I have nothing of my own to promote, what would be the point? If I sold a novel next week, to a major house, it wouldn't likely not be out in time for Denvention 08. Instead, I've leaned on a lot of working pros of my aquaintance to gleek up some stories so my antho will have a little name recognition, and I've invited every S&S writer I can find, or will soon have, to try to round up what has been happening now in S&S, which in case some folks missed it, is mostly happening around here.
It all would have been much smoother if I started earlier, but I really expected Chicago to win the bid.
POD has some real drawbacks, not the least is that so many obviously amature projects go that way. I'm hoping to not fall into that catagory.
And I wasn't even going to mention the project on these boards, or anywhere. Its not an open submission process, I don't want to deal with that. But every writer I'm likely to want but forget to invite comes here. and so . . .
Mike

Michael D. Turner
'Psyched Up' in _Turn the other Chick_-ed. E. Friesner-Baen books
www.baen.com
'Dutchman Rescue'in Continuum SF #6
www.continuumsciencefiction.com/orders.htm (http://www.continuumsciencefiction.com/orders.htm)

'An Incident at Black Tongue Tavern' in _Bash Down the Door and Slice Open the Badguy_ from Fantasist Enterprises:
www.fantasistent.com/books/anthologies/BASH.php (http://www.fantasistent.com/books/anthologies/BASH.php)